#11: 10x Less Productive w/ Pablo — No Solutions

What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"?

Pablo & Gigi want to encourage you to apply for SEC-05.

Books & websites mentioned:

Stackoverflow is dead by Gergely Orosz
Sovereign Engineering by Gigi and Pablo

In this dialogue:

Gigi's vibeline & vibeline-ui
Pubcastr aka castr.me
Pablo's thread about TENEX
Alex Gleason's MKStack
What is the essence of nostr?
What are nostr's values, and can LLMs extract them?
Agents and workflows living on nostr
Agent specialization and Roo code
“What would Jesus do?”
What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"?
Hierarchy of agents
Generalists vs specialists
Top-down constraints and bottom-up emergence
Wise architects VS efficient diff-merging LLMs
Where does the human fit in?
Distributed cognition: agents and humans
Hiring agents via nostr
"If the human has to intervene, something is catastrophically wrong."
Confidence levels of an agent's action
Giving agents money using mcp-money
Offering bounties to solve problems
Stackoverflow is dead
Stock photography is dead
Real vs fake photography test
Vibe-coding vs regular coding, and how it relates to the switch from analog to digital photography
What is economical, and what isn't?
Dialogue and Dia-Logos with LLMs
Specialization in a multi-agent world
Adding a small vibe-coding widget to every app (allowing users to customize stuff)
Multiplicity VS canonical design
Money is singular, language is not
Jack's original sin: the twitter Bootstrap theme
The "other stuff" initiative
What's missing from TENEX? Why isn't it fully working just yet?
Rebuilding everything every 3 weeks
Voice vs text, sentiment analysis vs tone
The power and informational density of silence
In-person vs online communication
Letting agents learn lessons
"Where do you get your ideas from?"
Anonymity vs pseudonyms vs government ID
Agents need identity, money, and reputation
"I own this dude." —Pablo
Owning agents
Vibe-coding lessons: don't look at the code, and in the best case don't even look at the IDE
Human-agent communication: typing vs speaking
Why some meetings couldn't have been an email
Clearly defined problems vs undefined problem spaces
Why TENEX will be in perpetual alpha
What is Sovereign Engineering?
Why should you sign up for it?
How come so many awesome things came out of it? Blossom, nsite, Zapstore, etc.
Who should come, and who shouldn't?
How did it start?
What's the idea?
"Fix the money, fix the internet."
"Ship stuff that lasts."
Keep it pure. No monetization.
Focus on exploration and ideation
What's the structure?
6 weeks, 21 participants
Same structure every week
Monday Mornings: Orientation
Tuesday Talks
Wednesday Workshops
Thursday: No Agenda
Friday: Demo Day
Weekend: Hikes
SEC-05: YOLO Mode
Empower users
Optimize for self-sovereignty
Bitcoin works
Lightning works (Gigi's post)
Build the future you want to see
Madeira: you can pay in bitcoin almost everywhere
tl;dr: Listen to every single No Solutions conversation to get an idea of what Sovereign Engineering is

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